Prince Nymphs and the Derivatives

By Mike Hogue

 

As far as I know the Prince was created by Edward Prince of Michigan. It is a pretty good pattern and has caught lots of fish for me. The pattern which basically represents nothing and everything is more less a cased caddis sort of pattern. It can be used as an Isyonica pattern for late summer and early fall fishing as well in the Northeast. Of late I have seen many patterns which are more or derived from this central pattern. By changing several things you can get some ideas how to refresh an old pattern.

The standard pattern for the prince is this:

Hook: Mustad 9671 or 3906b size 10-16

Thread: 6/0 brown or black

Rib: fine gold tinsel

Hackle: brown hen

Tail and topping: brown goose biots for tail and the top is a crossed pair of white goose biots.

Body: Peacock herl

The easiest thing to do to change this fly is add a bead. Okay, easy you say. Not so easy for nymph hooks. Usually to add beads on nymphs , take a pliers and bend the hook out about 10-15 degrees. I often grasp the hook between the bend and the point. If you yank too hard you will snap the hook. To bend back put it in your vise and push down hard on the hook shank. Remove and reinsert the hook to make it level again. Wow!

I add holographic tinsel to the for the rib and use ginger hen, for all my princes. I think that this lightens up the fly's appearance and makes it more attractive. The holographic tinsel adds some character to it also.

A good tip to do when making the fly is to run a bit of Zap a Gap down the back of the thread and then wind on the hurl, you must use a sparse amount of glue or the body will be very hard. Usually, I just touch it and run it down.

A common guide fly in Montana is to sub rubber legs/white for the biots. They often fold the legs in a v shape and tie in by the tail and the tie one on the top. Some folks sub in red thread to give it a bit more of a collar. The rubber legs allow you tie this a bit quicker.

One fly sold by Orvis for many years is the Rainbow Prince. This is combination of things which include: adding white round rubber legs for the tail and wing, substituting fox fire lite brite for the peacock hurl body. My wife tie this with a black bead in a size 8 and uses it for a stonefly, she also ties this in several other sizes as it is one of her favorite flies. The Lite Brite changes the fly and adds more sparkle to it.

A really hot fly this season in the Northwest is a Prince made using dark olive brown dubbing mixed with a green sparkle dub ( or Lite Brite), the fly is tied on a shrimp or scud hook and the tail is pheasant fibers. The hackle is tied as a beard instead of in the round. I'm sure the name of this one, I guess it is the Prince emerger? I do know that some places they can't keep this on hand. It looks good to me, I may tie some to fish it this fall.

There you go, adding a little spice to several old ideas. A little flash and glamour get added to dress up something which already works pretty good.

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Shadow box deal. Flies from the first Catskill Fly Tyer's Guild Rendezvous have been put together in a shadow box made by Ted Patlin. Now on display at the CFFCM Gift Shop. The box and frame are very nice. Only 200 tickets will be sold at $5 each. Contact Judy DV Smith at: darbee1@juno.com for more info. The tickets will be sold at several fishing shows this fall and winter, drawing will be at the winter Fly Fishing Show in Summerset, NJ.

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Plan on attending the Catskill Fly Fishing Center and Museum's Annual Angler's Summerfest. Over 40 dealers will have a booth ( including me) . Great bargains, lots of cool stuff. I usually find lots of old books at the show for a great price. Come early before I clean out all the good stuff. I will have some nice waders, jackets and vests for sale. August 30 at the CFFCM, Old Rt 17, Livingston Manor, NY. Contact Paul Dahlie at www.cffcm.org for more info.

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A Prince of a Deal ( Stuff to make a prince with)

Peacock sticks: Set of 4 select sticks. I hand select these. Not some ratty ones yanked off a farm bird. Full hurl, nice sticks: $1.75

Mixed Biot set; all the colors in the rainbow, mixed set of 10 different strips. Use for the prince or wind a body material. $1.50

Gold Beads: all the sizes something 64 's up to the fat head thumping giant ones. Tell me the hook and I will choose the bead size for free. All $2.25 a pack

My favorite Mustad 3906b. Downeye, sproat bead, use for wets, beads and soft hackles. I usually tie 12's and they seem to work everywhere from spring creeks to tail waters and NE freestoners. Size 10-16 $9.50 /100

Mustad C49S: Scud hook. Ideal for the hot new NW emerger prince. Use for scuds or for larger rainbow bead flies on salmon and steelhead. A bargin at 25% off. $3.75 / pack of 25's.

Speckled hen backs. Great for nymphs, webby and wonderful, no two a like. Sort of a bad grouse in color to a crappy gold badger. Makes very cool legs. Cheap too! $3 each or 3 for $8! Wow! This hurts, buy now to before the bleeding stops!

Fox Fire Lite Brite: The original stuff. Hank. $2.50

Box o Lite Brite: Big dubbing box with 12 colors. Burn a few eyes on fire with this stuff and light up the ugliest, blandiest most boring dubbing you own. $12 per packed in a box of 12

Holographic tinsel: Little tiny refractions actually have been scientifically proven to fire unpredictable bits of lite right into a trout's brain triggering the little known instinct to eat and clamp down on anything attached to this stuff. This comes right straight out of new published scientific journal by Dr. I . Pead. Quakenbush of the University of Spottsylvania located in Northern Cheesconsin. Okay you get the idea, it is good stuff! If you believe this, I have a nice bridge for sale! Yuck-yuck. :>

Red, Green, Blue, Gold, Black, Purple, Silver all $1.50 each size small.

Thread: Red 6/0 the best for a prince collar. $1.50 ( Have it? Try Fire Flo Orange, a NE favorite on dry flies. That's $1.50 too.

See if you don't read all this stuff, you miss something good!

Zap A Gap. The all time best stuff for gluing. Water proof , lots of uses. $3.75

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Pretty sad joke: 2 hunters from New Jersey are out deer hunting. These 2 folks are a few tools short of a complete set of Craftsman tools so one hunter is climbing over a fence, slips and shoots himself. The second hunter comes running up and looks at his friend, he realizes he is dead, grabs his cell phone and calls 911. He gets the e -room and talks to a doctor. The hunter says, " I think my friend is dead. He was climbing over a fence and he shot himself. What do I do?" The doctor says, " Well the first thing you need to is to check and see if he is really dead." The hunter grabs his gun, runs over to his friend and after it quits smoking, he then says to the doctor, " Okay , Now what?"

Get it? Gun, really dead, not too bright....okay.

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Still Nice and a good price.: My very popular scissors have always been a hit. 3.5 " tool steel with serrated edges. Arrow points. Choose from straight or curved. Curved are good for making muddlers and deer hair bugs. Get both for $8 or $4.50 each


Going, Going Gone

Some stuff that didn't sell so good. Now marked down.

Used to be really popular stuff. Big Fly fiber. I guess this was hot when big hair and no brains were the keys to getting lucky. Well I have a ton o this stuff. Was $3.50 now $1.75 each. White, Yellow, Chartreuse. Use for pike flies, mega divers. Use for making giant long striper flies. Use this idea quick before some crafty New Englander runs off to Smuckumpqua and patients the next hot fly.

Not so Unique Fibers: This never really caught on. I have no idea what it is good for but it might make a new a sort of curly clouser minnow. It is light 12" fiber that you can use for lots of streamer patterns. Oh stop the bleeding! Was $3 now $1.50, White, Blue, Chartreuse and Green.

Red Mongo Ringtail. These are dyed red. Comes with natural black bars. Would make nice red and black streamers. Nice tails. Was $3.50 Now $1.50 each

Boat Load o Wild Turkey. Some Tom is missing his wings and I found them. Oak quills. Use for hoppers or nymph backs, muddlers, choices are almost endless. Was $4 a pair, now 2 pairs for $6.

Box o Tinsel: Great for fall. Mixed box of 12 , includes, wire, oval tinsel , flat tinsel and embossed metal ( aka heavy metal ). Lots o stuff . $6.00 for full box

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The fishing is sort of slow. I have caught resident rainbows on small olive parachutes the past few days. Before dark and toss below your favorite falls, let drift. Best size 16-18 , most fun with a 2-3 weight. Supposed to be tricos on a few streams, I haven't seen them. Rumor has it that there is supposed to be a large discharge of water at Salmon River this weekend. They are going to crank it up to 750 cfs and then cut it off. It should start bringing in the fish soon. Check out some web sites from Pulaski for more info. I think this may be one of our best years with all the rain we have had.


 


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Mike Hogue / Badger Creek Fly Tying / 622 West Dryden Road, Freeville, NY 13068

Phone: 607-347-4946